TSA Forum Is It Possible To Raise The Standards In The Maritime Industry?

  17th November 2015 at 9:54am in Maritime Security

Is It Possible To Raise The Standards In The Maritime Industry?

Is there anyway back from using poorly trained operators who accept low wages?

Replies (6)

  21st November 2015 at 10:28am

I think the days of having experianced guys on the waters has long gone, Companies at the top are now feeling the pinch with much smaller pop up companies out pricing them by huge amounts and cheaper teams. and clients like this, But for the Captain and his crew it a problem. i have worked in this sector for the last 4 years, and gone from all Brit teams too one Brit and Indian teams, who are in my eyes shocking, forged and fake documents, very poor weapon skills if any at all. all Cvs are copied and pasted, and very lazy. i ended my maritime career because of this, so as your question poses the answer would have to be no, the horse has already bolted. 

  21st November 2015 at 2:00pm

That's an interesting point and I guess it's similar to the PSD Teams in Iraq who are largely one Brit and a team of local nationals.

  21st November 2015 at 2:26pm

Agree with you there Tom, guys find it hard to get into the security sector now because of this, cheap manpower but a accident or even worse waiting to happen. communication with these guys is sometimes very frustrating, in maritime the first spoken language is British, its very bad when your team members cant string two lines together.

  23rd November 2015 at 9:23pm

The industry is dead. This should have been implemented 4 years ago before the companies took advantage of good blokes  with wages and standards. The days of quality Brit teams are gone forever.  The 3rd World Nationals  (TWN) are very poor quality,  the Indians are an embarrassment to any security sector.  Without doubt the worst people I've ever worked with from weapon handling drills to personal hygiene and everything in between. With the poor wages the horrendous and accident waiting to happen armoury vessels and the uncertainty of a future I got out 2 months ago after 7 years in the game.

Some lads still serving ask me if i can give them any advice.  Yes I can. Use your  learning credits on a trade and steer clear of anything to do with security.

All doom and gloom? 

Damn right, I give MARSEC no more than 6 months at the max 

  24th November 2015 at 8:06pm

It's so difficult, a lot of people ask for advice through the site on getting into the industry and its so difficult to give a positive spin as we always try to do, but realistically it's a lot of money to spend on training with little guarantee of employment, although there are some jobs out there.

  27th November 2015 at 9:17am

Tom we can give good advice out for sure, but sometimes the truth hurts, as Brits we have to jump through hoops, and the certs we have to do, and the ones we have to do yearly, i have just done an enhanced Eng 1, which covers me for oil rigs as well, when presented to my company it was turned down, at a cost to me 0f £189:00 down the drain, i sent documented evidence that it was legal, i was still rebuked. This to me was a sure sign of being pushed out the way to make room for LN,s. So the advice i would also give is look else where, contracts are getting longer, and if for any reason at all you want to cut it short, you will be billed for transfer fees, visas, hotels, and flights home, and also costs for who ever is replacing you. so you have to be truthful to any guys wanting advice. point them towards this thread buddy.

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