TSA Forum Who Is To Blame For falling Standards In Close Protection?

  17th November 2015 at 9:38am in Raising Standards In The Security Industry

Who Is To Blame For falling Standards In Close Protection?

Are close protection industry standards the fault of the SIA or training providers?

Replies (9)

  17th November 2015 at 9:38am

Training providers might provide sub standard courses built on PowerPoint and car park drills but ultimately if the SIA was formed to regulate the industry and isn't doing so then it is the fault of the SIA as the governments regulating body.

  21st November 2015 at 8:27am

I think it is both the SIA and the operators. SIA for not making it harder to accredit companies, also for not checking training providers more often. Operator's for not wanting to be the best they can. Speaking to people with a wealth of experience in the industry a lot of guys think it's a short cut to huge pay packets which  as we know isn't the case generally.

  21st November 2015 at 4:49pm

I would also factor in the economy.  People/companies are always looking to cut costs.  They are willing to hire those with less experience or maybe less than stellar work backgrounds.  Then it dillutes the pool as more and more stay around as they continue to be employed.  

I would also suggest there are certain areas of CP where the members would disagree that standards are falling.

  22nd November 2015 at 1:59pm

I'd say that Tom, Gary and Symon all have very valid points on this.

Tom is correct that there are countless TPs that do the minimum to (bearly) meet the monimum requirements of the SIA licence linked qualification. But I would suggest that the Awarding Organisation (AO) in collaboration with the SIA should be conducting more stringent quality assurance when accrediting, and re-accrediting these TPs and thier trainers/assessors. This in itself would reduce the number of sub-standard TPs who often, should never have been allowed to give out qualifications. This, I feel adds another dimension to Garys argument above.

Symon brings another, wider, dimesnsion to the debate. Any industry currently faces many cost pressures. For most organisations the largest expenditure is the staffs wages (labour) and there are a number of ways to measure or view this pressure. For those of us that have experienced the circuit where and when the money was there for good operators will know that there were good and bad everywhere. Sometimes though, I'm sure many will agree, it is not always the case that the decent operators florish and the dross falls by the wayside. Unfortunatelly this is a fact of life. Often when there is uncertanty and you need the best to stay, they are the ones that move on as they are the best and know that they can get employment elsewhere, perhaps with a slightly lower, but more secure contracts.

  22nd November 2015 at 5:18pm

I do believe there is a book which answers this question in much depth...!

  22nd November 2015 at 5:26pm

I think you should summarise it on this thread Rich!

  23rd November 2015 at 8:44am

In summary and in no particular order:

  • At it's core...the SIA are to blame inevitably for not dictating high enough minimum standards.  
  • We can't blame the Awarding bodies as they hold no water.  
  • We can however blame TP's also for not setting their own high enough standards, but again...they are in business and money dictates all.
  • Students are to blame to an extent for their approach when entering the industry, personally I would want to enter with the best chance of success and the first way would be to do the best course!
  • The MoD should also take some blame for allowing forces leavers to use a selection of sub-standard providers through the ELCAS.  TP's should be limited to the top 3, this way it might encourage other TP's to raise their game and create healthy competition and a higher standard of entrant.
  23rd November 2015 at 2:20pm

I think Symon is spot on. I've had a couple of our clients recently saying they have been after a contract. Got to the very final stages and been told that another company will do the same but much cheaper. Would they be prepared to match this? They have turned it down on the opinion of you get what you pay for, their price is their price.

Like every industry, people always want costs as low as possible, therefore people will hire the lower standard/less experienced to save money. Just doing the bare minimum to satisfy the need.

  2nd December 2015 at 5:46pm

Close Protection standards are falling due too many operators not maintaining enough training days and not learning from past experiences .  Having done witness protection in the eighties we always briefed afterwards we always looked at our weak point no matter how good you are everyone has weak points . too many operator think once they get that little Card that it training stops . If you have not maintained your training all year then you should not be part of a detail .  you need 100 hour training a year to keep you on top . you are not just failing yourself  you are failing the industry as a whole .

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